The Great Debate

I am a member of a parenting forum site. One of my friends on there asked this question:

"Man and woman are together for over 10 years, in those years they produce 3 lovely children. They decide they no longer want anymore children. Woman wants something more full proof than b/c and tells man he must be snipped before they have sex. Man does not want to be snipped, neither does woman. Man suggest IUD, woman says no. She persists in telling him they will not have sex until HE gets snipped. She tells him either do it or leave. So he leaves. Woman friends comfort her broken heart by telling her he was a selfish asshole. Mans friends comforts him by telling him she is a manipulative bitch.

Whose the douche?"

Now....First of all, my stance on this is both are being stubborn and unreasonable. But she gets the douche award because she was withholding sex from him over it, and eventually the family is broken because of it. That is extremely selfish. So woman is the douche.

The problem I have is the amount of women who replied to this, siding with the woman! Some comments I read were: 

men should be doing the snipping because the women are the ones who go through intense and painful labor. 

(In response to the above comment from another woman) This is a good point too. I'm sure his getting fixed is nowhere near as painful as labor, especially going through pregnancy and labor THREE times

This had to be the most irritating comment out of all of them.

YES, women are the ones who go through pregnancy, labor, and delivery. YES, women are the ones whose bodies go through Hell and back to provide a child. But it drives me NUTS when women use that as leverage in an argument. This is how God/Nature/Science created us. He/It created women to bare children. I wish women would stop using that as a bargaining chip.

Another one:
HIS body, HIS choice.
The my body, my choice ideal that i fully support, goes both ways.
And giving ultimatums is immature and manipulative and control-freakish. 


I liked this comment. It raises an excellent point. Why should women be the only ones who get to argue the "my body, my choice" point?

I could go on for a LONG time about all of this...I mostly wanted to vent about those two items. Either way, I am glad I have no problem getting a tubal or something of equal value when we are done having children. Vasectomies are more unreliable than female procedures, and 50% of men with vasectomies are at risk for developing dementia. So yeah....I'll go under for my husband and kids. Because I love them and I will do what I have to to provide the best I can.